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Post by rtek84 on Jul 8, 2014 16:27:26 GMT 8
Please vote for the number of hours that you feel is reasonable that visitors should be allowed to park their vehicle in Covillea.
This poll is referring to the normal visitor that is visiting without the overnight passes.
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Post by rtek84 on Jul 8, 2014 19:04:11 GMT 8
I also suggest a parking charge of say RM15/day if visitor overpark, definitely not RM100 to unclamp.
Not even the DBKL or MPSJ simply go out and clamp people's cars my goodness.
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Post by TIRTA on Jul 8, 2014 19:28:46 GMT 8
As a reminder, security better gives a call to the visitor or respective unit if the parking hour is about to exceed.
Sometimes it just happens unintentionally from visitor side.
It is not necessary to clamp the car directly.
The security guys are human as well who are supposed to work with common sense.
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Post by kct on Jul 9, 2014 9:14:39 GMT 8
Yes agreed , they need to call the mobile phone number too, sometimes the owner might not be at home.
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Post by kochin on Jul 9, 2014 10:35:39 GMT 8
visitors are supposed to be registered.
if they are not, means they obtained the card from the owners. these group should know where to park. if not, clamp for illegal parking or parking at visitor spot without identification. same like riana green tropicana.
for registered visitors, they should be allowed to park for stipulated timeframe. this should be communicated clearly to the visitors from the guards.
when time's up, guards should intercom the unit the visitors are visiting.
we have intercom facilities, so use it wisely, else what are the things for?
my 2 c
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Post by owner on Jul 19, 2014 11:41:36 GMT 8
I stayed here since a year. The last mgt team did not do anything and the previous guards were sleeping,smoking, playing handphones and receiving bribes. Now, I see much improvement. At least there is none of above. Just one or two guards caught. When informed mgt then they were changed. They are just doing their duty. Sometimes I see residents talk rudely. No need, they are paid to do a job.
I asked mgt why the 4hour parking is imposed. The reason, last time many students just parked at our place from morning till evening when they finished class. Now no more. Our place must not be used as public parking.
Some residents were found to have parked in other bays which belong to others. So they were clamped. Why must they park in other bays when they have their own? Is it because they are lazy to park at their own and found it convenient to park at others. Of course they were clamped especially when other owners found out. Btw, some owners complained they can rent out their bays and have rental income. As owner, I will be upset when I can rent out and I find people have been parking illegally in my place. You want to park in my empty bay, you pay rent. NO FOC!!
You go anywhere, if you park illegally your car gets clampf and you pay. Mt kiara, big shopping complexe.
Also, I was told by reliable people the creator of this forum/administrator likes to park at other owners' bays and got clamped. Is he not the person always complaining here??? Why must he park FOC when he has his own parking lots? He must pay the rent if he parks illegally. A person who likes to break rules like to complain, so likely. Worse still, in this forum, he is inciting others to go against the rules. My Q to him is, if you do not like to follow rules, go live in landed property. Every place has rules. This is communal living, you do not live by yourself here.
There are 308 units here. Your forum is only has a handful voices. You do not represent the rest? Who gave you the right to complain and make trouble when you park illegally and dont follow rules yourself. Anything you have to say go AGM where there are other owners. Or else keep quiet. Give constructive views not just your biased views. You do not have credibility at all.
Others who obey rules so we all can live safely. I can see the security is in better control
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Post by TIRTA on Jul 19, 2014 13:39:47 GMT 8
It happemed that someone parked on my spot. I just simply asked the security to clamp th car. That's it!
But this is not the reason that we require stickers.
Especially if we all park in our own spots!
Anyway i don't put the sticker on my windshield where rondom people can know where i live, etc.
Regarding security, they don't speak proper english nor malay.
Imagine this in emergency situation.
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Post by TIRTA on Jul 19, 2014 13:43:53 GMT 8
I suggest we better walk the talk, rather than having this discussion virtually.
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Post by TIRTA on Jul 19, 2014 21:25:30 GMT 8
I happened to know that today one of covillean got clamped at night of 18. July out of nothing, just because one of comitee member asked security to do so. It is simply an EPIC FAIL  |
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Post by rakyat malaysia on Jul 20, 2014 16:27:57 GMT 8
My Q to him is, if you do not like to follow rules, go live in landed property. Every place has rules. This is communal living, you do not live by yourself here. If you like rules so much, why not you go live in a bungalow all by yourself and can have as many rules as you want? Why is communal living that we all have to live by the rules set by one person? And the way you talk like this, I see no different in you and those extremist who ask others to balik Cina, balik India and etc. A communal living is where the rules must be shared and understood by each other. What you are doing is implementing rules as you wished. You are imposing what you like and you don't like to others who may not shared the same belief as you. You are behaving like no different than a dictator, who claims to understand everyone's needs all based on your own judgment. And stop quoting and singing the song, "only you" please, come on, even though let's pretend you actually represent the majority, having the majority does not mean that you can do anything/have the power to oppress the minority. Each and every individual have the same rights as any other invidual. It doesn't mean if you belong to a majority group, you can enforce any unjust rule against anyone you pick from the minority. Just because you claim you are the majority, it doesn't allow you to say, put a minority in jail just because you don't like him/her. Only psychopathic authoritarian thinks like that. Please go watch this video, it will teach you to understand how to respect other's liberty, others rights, and hopefully able to change your mindset from continuing to pursue the authoritative way. www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GazZBvHhgQ |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:01:56 GMT 8
I don't understand why it is so hard for Malaysian to follow rules. Most condos have this kind of rules to allow for a better community living among the people. I'm currently staying in Covillea but rented out a Condo I owned in Damansara Utama which has stricter rules including moving furniture that needs letter from management (due to people moving big stuff and break stuff) and parking stickers which are a norm and yes, clamping. The guards are not local so can't really speak fluent Malay or English but at least we can understand as I am educated so I have no problem understanding them who are mostly not educated. But they are good as due to their rounds, they managed to prevent my unit from getting burnt down due to my next-door neighbour unit caught fire (that's another story for another day) so I think it is very normal to have rules. It is not normal to have this kind of rules say in landed property like single or double storeys, or a bungalow perhaps. But if living in Condo, for any countries and any cities, certain rules are usually designed. Even flats have their own rules.
Another answer to the question, each committee members are in-charge of certain areas and that is why only 1 committee member is doing one thing and the main thing people most people misses is that you need to know that they don't get paid while get disturbed all the time due to issues in Covillea with the stressed of trying to please everybody and while pleasing one, another complain with one even said like 'Have you seen a gun, you want to get shot with one?'.
Honestly, it makes me wonder with all the educations (I assumed we are all educated) that we received, is it really that hard to try to conform to rules to allow others to live better? Confucius said the end of education produced character, and with that character we should be more civilized, thinking about others rather than own self, so perhaps like some other forums I came across low-yat is correct, Covillea is only 'upper-range' in price but contains quite a lot of 'lowly' people? Why portray such negative image?
Guard are paid like RM 1200? We (I assumed again) have average salary of RM 5000 or some even double the numbers. Then, of course they can't speak proper language as most are poor but we should be able to understand them as we are educated, no?
Is it really too much to ask for, to live together peacefully following rules? If you guys don't like it, why not put out views calmly in a civilised manner thru proper channel? Like for example, joining the AGM meeting or meeting up with any committee members to have this issue discussed or the person in the management office or file a proper complaint to have it looked at during the next committee meeting? There is one person manning the issue, that is correct, but it is via the majority agreement of the entire committee for it to be executed and those people are trying their very best to please each and every one staying in Covillea without getting paid. They spent on average 4 to 10 hours weekly on Covillea's issues.
So, please do our very best educated and civilised mind to understand and appreciate this effort. I hope it is not too much to ask. Anyone who wants to discuss this matter, please just PM me and we can talk further and of course, in a civilised manner. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:19:40 GMT 8
By the way, there is another thing why the 4 hours are being agreed with the committee board to be executed. I am not sure if you guys are aware of this that Covillea visitor parking were always full previously. This is due to we are extremely near IMU and some students are staying in Covillea. So their friends who are not staying in Covillea, took the visitor pass and parked inside and then go over to IMU. So, previously, the visitors tend to have to park outside. After the 4 hours rule implementation is when we start to see parkings are ready for 'real' visitors of Covilleans.
There was even an incident just a few days ago that during the afternoon, a police officer was writing fines to cars parked outside Covillea. A person saw this and steered his car into Covillea getting the visitor pass and then walk over to IMU. This was caught by a committee member and the car was clamped. So, while this committee member is making sure people are parking in their own lot and visitors get their parking when they visit, the same person is also under fire by some people staying inside who looked away from the convenience created from the rule and targeted the inconvenience of parking at own bay rule.
Any thoughts how we can do this in a better way if you guys think 4 hours rule is not good enough? Please do keep in mind, there are students staying in Covillea and they have a lot of friends which had once occupied all visitors parking before this 4 hours rule.
Thanks again.
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Post by TIRTA on Jul 21, 2014 17:46:16 GMT 8
If you want to catch the Rats, you don't need to burn down the whole house  |
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Post by kct on Jul 21, 2014 18:09:34 GMT 8
I think the guards really have to do their duty by identifying who is mis-using the visitor's carpark. If they are attentive enough they are able to differentiate who is really the visitors who is there to visit or the students mis-using it. Now the 4 hours rules are just for the guards to follow blindly. The 4 hours rules is too restrictive. Now i see, rather than real visitors, I see the carpark is like almost empty most of the time. I guess the management manage to get rid of everyone including the 'real' visitors. Propose to increase it to 6 to 8 hours, and also guard should call the owner before they decide to clamp their visitor's car. Should be also be convenient for people to extend the allotted hours for at least another hour.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 18:22:12 GMT 8
The guards are better than the previous ones but in my own opinion not good enough that the committee are also checking those parking hands on with their limited time. Then again, I don't think with the limited pay, the guards will be willing to do that much.
The guards do call and clarify with owners before clamping though as they are instructed to do so, so if they're skipping it, please do let the management know.
It is easier if all follow rules than scrutinize and catching one by one. After all the committees also are volunteering. Guards, I'm catched one sleeping this morning so I reported it but I know the guards were getting switched too frequently.
So, what do u guys/gals think?
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